You’ll Never Believe What Happened to Lacey, is the title of the very funny, if completely horrifying, book by comedian and late-night host Amber Ruffin. The book, which Amber co-wrote with her sister Lacey Lamar, is a collection of essays about all the racist sh*t Lacey has to put up with as a Black woman living and working in Omaha, Nebraska.

On this episode of Next Question with Katie Couric, Katie talks with the sisters about growing up in Omaha, their different trajectories and experiences with racism, and how humor can be used to expose and talk about the hard stuff. Katie also explores Amber’s career, her new show (The Amber Ruffin Show, on Peacock) and her incredible ability to skewer the kind of everyday racism she and her siblings have always put up with. And if you haven’t seen it already, go watch Amber make the case for a White History Month. 

Click here to learn more about You’ll Never Believe What Happened to Lacey: Crazy Stories About Racism, from Grand Central Publishing. Want to hear an excerpt from the book? Look no further: